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Kto zna choć trochę angielski może sobie poczytać nowy wywiad z członkami Genesis który odbył sie 22 maja 2008 roku w redakcji genesis-music.com Genesis-Music.com Transcript: Chat with Tony & Mike chat Thursday May 22nd, 2008 06:00:00 PM EST Xingu (May 22, 2008 1:04:51 PM) Welcome everyone - Mike and I are here at The Farm with Mike, Tony, Dale, Geoff, Emily, Nick and our videographer Charlotte Xingu (May 22, 2008 1:05:03 PM) We're letting mike and tony grab a glass of water and then we'll get started nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:07:15 PM) Hello nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:08:10 PM) You can ask me some questions while the band get ready garybest (May 22, 2008 1:08:44 PM) I'll get my question in now then - will they be giving the live albums the 5.1 treatment? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:08:45 PM) You'll have to ask the band that hot_to_foxtrot (May 22, 2008 1:09:22 PM) Is Phil really retiring Nick? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:09:23 PM) I don't think so, but maybe no more big tours dnandrews (May 22, 2008 1:09:47 PM) Nick, did you make it on Tuesday? I didn't spot you. The sound on the WIR preview was awseome. Looks like another top class piece of work. nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:09:47 PM) I was there- making sure it sounded good kyle (May 22, 2008 1:10:27 PM) Nick, how did you enjoy the screening at Kensington?! :) nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:10:27 PM) Quite nervous, as we had a lot of technical issues lummux (May 22, 2008 1:11:03 PM) Hi Nick, I was wondering what your home sound system consisted of? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:11:03 PM) Little Sony - same as Geoff’s! duchess1981 (May 22, 2008 1:11:27 PM) Out of all the work you've done with Genesis, what is the highlight, Nick? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:11:27 PM) I really enjoyed last year genesis_rocks (May 22, 2008 1:12:19 PM) How’s the bands new album coming along nick?? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:12:20 PM) Don't know much about Bob Dylan dreps1 (May 22, 2008 1:13:16 PM) Hi Nick are you working on some things for Genesis right now? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:13:17 PM) Been involved with the DVD launch. Saw the Genesis Fan Club DVD just now - looks great! silversquonk (May 22, 2008 1:14:07 PM) How pleased are you, Nick, with WIR? It sounded fantastic in the theatre. nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:14:08 PM) I'm pretty pleased - it was a pretty good gig duke77 (May 22, 2008 1:14:41 PM) Can you reveal any of the visual bonus stuff that we might expect from the 70-75 box set? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:14:41 PM) There's a few of videos that are seen on Youtube, but we hopefully found the best versions possible, like Suppers Ready from France we tried to choose the best of what is available. I think in the main most of the visual stuff has been seen somewhere. The most interesting stuff is a musical item, the Jackson tapes, written prior to Trespass, wrote it for a guy named Michael Jackson, and people will hear bits and pieces that were used later on. Little bits and pieces all over the place, and it also contains little bits and pieces not found anywhere. Only a rough vocal on it. Interesting, but rather poor sound. raelmatrix (May 22, 2008 1:15:27 PM) Hi Nick, RM from Italy here. Just a question: original Jackson Tapes are mono or stereo nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:15:27 PM) Original are mono - we have created fake stereo and 5.1 richn (May 22, 2008 1:15:46 PM) Nick, how the work on the next box set progressing? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:15:46 PM) Its all done - at least from my end philcornelius (May 22, 2008 1:16:04 PM) Ok one for you then Nick. Have you listened to TM productions 30th anniversary CD and if so what do you think of it nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:16:04 PM) Not yet laura (May 22, 2008 1:16:31 PM) For Mike and/or Tony, with so many bands from your generation retiring or getting ready to, what are your thoughts on the future of prog/pop rock, and what new bands/artists do you enjoy listening to? And thank you for changing my life! xo Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:16:31 PM) I'm not really a person to ask about prog/pop rock, I understand there's a bit of a renaissance in that area though. Band that I like, it's more chance whatever I end up hearing, whatever my son or daughter plays to me. On the radio, they don't tell you what is being played! A group I liked a lot recently though was The Feeling, I liked the Coldplays and Snow Patrols... I don't go ecstatic over it, but I do enjoy it silversquonk (May 22, 2008 1:17:53 PM) Nick, forgive my ignorance. How long have you worked with Genesis? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:17:54 PM) I first worked with the band on Mike + the Mechancis – The Living Years rawells (May 22, 2008 1:18:07 PM) What do you think of an on-going business model in which you (as trio or 5-piece) record new music and release it through (e.g.) iTunes, without requiring an album format or touring? Does that even appeal to you? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:18:07 PM) I think in terms of anything, we have no ideas what we might do in the future, if anything. We have nothing planned at the moment. The idea of doing something that isn't a complete album, is somewhat more appealing. We don't want to get on the treadmill of making an album and long tours. The idea of writing music together is appealing, so if we do something, that's the appealing part, do it differently. Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:18:41 PM) Small issue with being booted off chat, here we are kyle (May 22, 2008 1:19:09 PM) Nick, when it comes to mixing a live concert like 'When In Rome', how far do you go in terms of fixing mistakes...from the odd bum note, to a major screw-up like Firth of Fifth? Where do the draw the line between making things sound perfect, and maintaining the flavour of the gig? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:19:09 PM) I try and get rid of bum notes, but nothing is replayed – it’s all live! gman101010 (May 22, 2008 1:19:25 PM) Tony or Mike. We have plenty of post 1980 DVD / video releases etc, but do the band have any pre - 1980 material (e.g. Seconds Out") that we could see or could be worked on for 'fan' release soon - 1 year? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:19:25 PM) There really is nothing, everything we have is coming out on the box sets. The Mama tour DVD hasn't been done, but we've dredged whatever we can find, but everything that exists is known about. lastdomino (May 22, 2008 1:20:33 PM) Mr. Banks - are you working on another classical album or looking at internet release of any classical styling of music anytime soon Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:20:33 PM) Currently, that’s the area I'm working in now... After I did the last classical thing, I was desperate for some drums, and after the tour, I got my fill of drums. Now what I'm writing has more of an orchestral flavor. But, it's still a way away from now. How it will appear, that's way in the future now. symfan (May 22, 2008 1:21:00 PM) Nick, are tracks like Twilight Alehouse and Going Out to Get You full 5.1? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:21:00 PM) Twilight Alehouse has been mixed in 5.1 - as has Happy the Man. All the others are fake dreps1 (May 22, 2008 1:21:16 PM) Hello Mike! Can we expect some solo material from you in the future? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:21:16 PM) Nothing planned at the moment but I always do the round on guitar, not really sure what I would do with it or what form it would take genesis_rocks (May 22, 2008 1:21:25 PM) Which do you think was the best gig last year on the tour Nick? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:21:25 PM) The best one I saw was Manchester wotchaofsykes (May 22, 2008 1:22:11 PM) Tony, do you have a favourite Beach Boys album? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:22:11 PM) (laughs) It has to be Pet Sounds... As the questioner probably knows, the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson, and all the members of the band (Tony listed them here, but I couldn’t keep up!), there's so many good songs in there. After that, it’s more about individual songs, although "Surf's Up" has good stuff on there. "Make it Good," was a great track, 2.5 minutes of Dennis Wilson croaking on top of a orchestral sound, it builds to a wonderful climax. A very direct emotional piece. It doesn't have the sound of their other pieces, but it's still good. rschappe (May 22, 2008 1:22:21 PM) Mike, any plans for you and Paul to do more Mechanics material? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:22:21 PM) Nothing planned, I've always enjoyed writing songs with Paul, but he's pretty active doing his solo tours every year and his solo albums however my new motto is 'never say never.' rawells (May 22, 2008 1:23:02 PM) More on new music: did any on-the-fly songwriting or recording happen during last year's tour? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:23:02 PM) (easy answer) No, didn't have the time. wotchaofsykes (May 22, 2008 1:23:43 PM) Any plans to release the old board tapes? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:23:43 PM) I'm glad that you've asked this, I was just talking to Geoff Callingham next door about this. It's something we've discussed before so here's a question - what would you like to hear? Should we take one concert from half a dozen tours? Feedback would be good, as we have so many tapes and DAT’s. madwomanmoon (May 22, 2008 1:24:16 PM) For everyone: Can we expect a memoir sometime? ;) Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:24:16 PM) There is the book, whatever it's called... ‘Chapter & Verse.’ It’s done in our own words, a very accurate reflection of what was done. I felt very happy with the result. As far as something more personal, I'm not really into autobiographies. It's more self congratulatory, and it gets into the mode of patting yourself on the back. mac555 (May 22, 2008 1:26:42 PM) Question for both Tony and Mike - I was wondering out of all the tours you've done, which tour and or song was the most challenging for you individually and collectively. Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:26:42 PM) Every tour we’ve done seems challenging when you start it. This last tour was very challenging, its been 30 years since writing material like “In the Cage,” and getting sounds together was difficult. But, because of the tech and the confidence in the group, it was good. The LLDOB was a tough tour to play. We played lots of songs that weren't good for live playing, trying to bang through things like “The Lamia” and “Anyway,” but the RMI had no touch sensitivity. It was difficult to pull off... I don't think it would be problem to do anything live now, from a technical point of view. From a playing point of view, it might be hard to make the fingers go around “Mad Man Moon”.... *laughs* steviesaf (May 22, 2008 1:28:25 PM) Why not put lots of the concerts up for sale right from the board tapes? You know - just "long tail" the Genesis archive. There would be demand for each of them (as we've seen from the - ahem - bootlegs. Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:28:25 PM) This has been talked about for years, and we've agreed to it for ourselves for years, Dale and Geoff are accumulating what we got, we're DEFINITELY going to do it, we'll see how it goes with people. I'm ashamed to say that some of the early ones, I wiped over.... *laughs* derekmoore (May 22, 2008 1:28:37 PM) Mike and Tony - We all enjoy both your solo and group work, would you consider creating a joint piece of work between the two of you with session players or friendly guests such as Paul Carrack? We're no longer tied to CD lengths anymore so it can be as long or short as you like! Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:28:37 PM) You make a good point in that you're right, it's kind of weird now, there is no reason to do anything in the CD length, it's just habit. I rather like the idea that you just record a body of work - if it's 10 min, 15 minutes, and find a home for it. swede (May 22, 2008 1:29:18 PM) Tony, did you know that Steve has stolen a theme from A Curious Feeling and put it on the Highly Strung album from 1982? A secret message? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:29:19 PM) I didn't know this! I'll be in touch and ask for royalties... I'll listen to it more closely. richn (May 22, 2008 1:29:49 PM) Has the fan response to the box sets and the tour surprised you? Did you think there would be as much interest in the tour as there was? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:29:50 PM) Yeah, definitely we were surprised by the response and the way that the tickets sold and we were especially surprised in the UK, and if we'd known, we'd probably have changed the balance and done more UK shows but by then it was too late. colart (May 22, 2008 1:31:36 PM) Tony and Mike, if you had taken another turn in life, what would you have chosen to do--apart from music? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:31:36 PM) It's an interesting question really, when we first started doing music, I didn’t think that it would have become a profession. I went to university for a year, I was reading physics and chemistry for a year, so who knows, research science. I would have liked to be in something creative, it would have appealed to me. At that age, you get caught up in something, and music was a hobby, Peter and I never thought about being professional musicians. We followed on from that lead, and we just started with the idea that we'd do it for a bit, and just stop. But I loved music and was glad to follow that for a career. stregaro (May 22, 2008 1:31:49 PM) Mr. Banks and Mr. Rutherford, are there any songs that you really wanted to perform on the TIOA Tour but couldn't? (Daryl Stuermer mentioned rehearsing "Abacab" and "Jesus He Knows Me") Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:31:49 PM) Trouble is you can only play for so long. There were quite a few bits that we would have liked to have done. Personally I always like “Jesus He Knows Me” but I think Phil and Tony were a bit tired of it. You know the way we work, if there’s not enough energy from three of us collectively, then it made more sense to just work on the ones that we were all excited about playing. “Abacab” we discussed, but we all went off the idea, and “That's All.” wotchaofsykes (May 22, 2008 1:32:41 PM) Thanks Mike. I would guess that for most interested in old tapes - the older the better and from as many different tours as possible. Complete concerts too I would say. Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:32:41 PM) Do you mean every single bloody show on a tour? That sounds very brave. paulandcarole (May 22, 2008 1:34:10 PM) To Mike and Tony, tomorrow we have a special Genesis Event in Alsace Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:34:10 PM) First of all, say hi to Ray, he came to see us at one of the shows in Europe and it was great to see him. As for the French audience, c'est toujours pour genesis un pays especial pour tous le group. kailuawave (May 22, 2008 1:34:43 PM) Tony, Mike: How often do you see or talk to Peter Gabriel? How much is he involved in the release of the box sets? Is another reunion tour with him still a possibility or is that pretty much dead now? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:34:43 PM) I've actually talked to him a few times recently, about the content of the extras for the box set, which of the bits and pieces we thought were up to scratch. We can't put everything up there, and some of the stuff is very poor, "It's good visually, but your voice isn't up to snuff," but Peter was game for including it anyway. We've only got the two unreleased songs "Twilight Alehouse” and “Happy the Man," so we had to talk about what to go on there. We talked about the 5.1 mixes particularly for TLLDOB, and Peter was into making it a bit more surround more than at first. We worked with that in mind to include that kind of thinking. We played that again for Peter, and he was really into it. They do sound very good, I think. It's interesting with the early albums, because they were slightly rougher, the version may differ slightly more than the originals, but we will stay with the original ethos, which is important to Nick and myself. deckard (May 22, 2008 1:35:37 PM) Hi Mike and Tony. You are both great songwriters but is there a song out there that you each wish you had written? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:35:37 PM) Yeah, too many. Most of the Beatles songs and onwards. I think as a songwriter the best thing is that you never get there and the older you get, the more you are unable to fool yourself that something you've written is great if it's not. It's a pain really. bender (May 22, 2008 1:36:04 PM) What do you think of the way Peter Gabriel allowed the fans from his web site to choose the songs he played on his recent rewind tour? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:36:04 PM) Very brave! But probably rather foolish (laughs). I know people who went to the show, but it might have been confusing, as people didn't hear what they were expecting to hear. It may be fun to do one or two shows like that, but not a whole tour. With our fans, they’d choose “Mad Man Moon,” and I cant play it! (Laughs) richn (May 22, 2008 1:36:44 PM) For Tony and Mike, do either of you visit the forums on the website at all? Nick has a good section where he responds when time permits to fan questions. Any interest in something like that, or does time just not permit it? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:36:44 PM) Occasionally I try to go online but I'm not a member and Anthony the documentary maker gave me a cheat password that doesn't work anymore. (THIS IS MARIA SAYING I"LL FIX THAT ASAP) gman101010 (May 22, 2008 1:37:23 PM) Mike and/or Tony - what do you most like to do 'outside' of music ? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:37:23 PM) It's always rather boring sounding things, when I get off the road, I love to garden. It's a big pleasure for me, I like a bit of sport, golf, tennis, squash all probably equally badly, but with entertainment. Spend time with family, I like photography, a lot of things, but gardening is a very time consuming part of things, it takes up as much time as you want it to take. gabbleratchett (May 22, 2008 1:38:45 PM) Nick, how bad is Tony at squash? nick davis (May 22, 2008 1:38:45 PM) I beat him most times!! kdmweb (May 22, 2008 1:39:01 PM) Tony or Mike - Were you pleased with the response you received in the USA last year? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:39:01 PM) Yeah, fantastic - especially for me as the Mechanics who started off their popularity in the States in the mid to late 80's then seemed to switch and become more popular in Europe. Apart from the musical side, I rather miss going to America like I used to. As you must remember, touring in the States was for many years a big part of our life. I feel that I got to know the country very well. What was great was that the fans in the States were of all ages. guido (May 22, 2008 1:39:27 PM) So another question would be: is there any song you wrote and published that you wish you had NOT written? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:39:27 PM) (laughs) There are one or two I suppose over the years. Lyrics are more of a problem than the song. “The Day the Light Went Out” is a bit embarrassing. “The Lady Lies” is a bit embarrassing, but not the song, only the lyric. On solo albums, there are a bit more, "Don't Turn Your Back on Me," I don’t like as much,. I try to put them out of my brain (laughs). There are some other Genesis ones that are out there, but they're not my lyrics, so it's not really fair to comment on those. Seven Stones is a bit off. But it's some things that stand the test of times better. “Watcher of the Skies,” the chorus doesn’t sit with me well, the way it sits with the music is not that good. spacement (May 22, 2008 1:40:04 PM) Speaking of spending time with the family. Are any of you proud grandparents yet? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:40:05 PM) (laughs) Not that I know of! Chester is, of course. He's a grandfather twice over, at least, but he's *so* much older than us. I'm a great-uncle a few times over. raincloud (May 22, 2008 1:40:34 PM) Why didn't you change anything from Europe leg to American's, not any of the songs...? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:40:34 PM) It's always a hard question - but I suppose by one or two cities where there were multiple shows the audience is seeing it for the first time, and the only time and I think the set we put together was very strong musically and visually. Had the tour been longer, I think we would have, like in the past, made some alternatives. It flew by. banksian733 (May 22, 2008 1:42:26 PM) Question for Tony: What inspires you the most about Romanticism and do you consider yourself to be a Romantic as well as a cynic? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:42:27 PM) (chuckle) What period are you talking about, late 19th century, in terms of classical composers, it all starts with Brahams, for me that's where I come into classical, I don't know, I am a romantic, definitely, and a cynic. I think my favorite period is more around the 1930’s, I like a lot of art and music from that period. A grand romantic theme, that's what I like. I do pick and choose from eras, I find it hard to be definite... I like that one, I but I may not like the rest of it. I don't know if I hear material the same way, so I'm picking something different out of the music than other people are. shawn (May 22, 2008 1:42:46 PM) Question for Tony or Mike: Is there any word on the idea that was being talked about regarding doing the lamb tour with Peter again? Peter has always seemed somewhat reserved about going back on the road with Genesis – have you had any success in trying to convince him to give it a shot just for the fun of it? :) Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:42:46 PM) The history of The Lamb possibilities goes back to a meeting we had in Scotland with the three of us and Peter and Steve re: doing the possible Lamb project. We threw the idea around for a couple of hours and what transpired was that Pete had an album to come out, and obviously a tour to follow, and that was four years ago. As you know, Pete is happily and easily sidetracked with all the rather exciting things he gets involved with. Funnily enough, I opened up the Daily Telegraph today, and there is an article about his internet projects. Like we all said, it's a possibility and the idea is out there. mac555 (May 22, 2008 1:44:15 PM) Being in a tribute band myself, I was wondering if you are surprised by the quantity of tribute bands all over the world and that there is so much interest in us as shown by the attendance at our shows? Thanks. ML Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:44:15 PM) I would like to know how many tribute bands there are. I have actually no idea. I'm always amazed how much work goes into the tribute bands and having seen The Musical Box I like the way that part of the pleasure is getting all the various elements right - the lights, props, staging, but the only one I've ever seen is The Musical Box. ferfelix (May 22, 2008 1:45:46 PM) when Steve left, was Ant considered or asked to come back, time had passed and he had already released albums? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:45:46 PM) When Steve left, no, Ant wasn't really considered, it had been a long time since he'd left, and he was doing a lot of different musical projects by then. Plus it seemed natural to become a three piece writing unit. The only real worry was stage, but that's where Daryl came in and it's been great working with him since 78. jpduchaney (May 22, 2008 1:46:25 PM) When you change the Cage Medley each tour - is it determined mostly by chord changes and arrangement, or do you have to "make" it fit? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:46:25 PM) I think we try to find some bits and pieces that are interesting to play, I was keen to do things from the Duke album on this tour. I wanted to do the “Behind the Lines” intro, the way it opens, it's a great optimistic start. The Duke's Travels start, it's not as a totality the greatest of the instrumentals, but it has great parts to it. What we chose was a very strong moment. This time, with “Guide Vocal” and “Afterglow,” with it coming from the same head, it flowed well. The transition from “Cinema Show” into “Dukes Travels” was a bit more difficult, as the DVD shows, but it worked out... It was developed, we took the nicest bit of the Cinema show, and the bit of Scree, but it's a bit arbitrary what ends up in it. We considered “…In That Quiet Earth” as it's a good bit, but it didn't make it. The key is also a factor. We took “In the Cage” and “Afterglow” down a tone, so the transition was a bit different, but it can be strange hearing the old version side by side. We kept the “Second Home by the Sea” in the same key, but if we had done that for all the songs, we would have cancelled shows. “Mama” worked well in a lowered key, even darker than before. raincloud (May 22, 2008 1:47:16 PM) Tony and Mike, are any of your children into music? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:47:17 PM) I think everyone’s kids are into music these days. My son Tom works for a company that does a lot of album projects and they've just been involved in the Eagles last campaign. My youngest son Harry wants to be an engineer/producer so he's doing his Pro Tools course and as I can see, nicely obsessed by it all. raincloud (May 22, 2008 1:47:50 PM) Talking about tribute bands: Tony, are there no plans for another Strictly Banks concerts?? They are amazing (with three keyboard players to play your part :-)) Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:47:51 PM) (laughs) I don't think there’s any plans, the guy who did it, it probably cost him too much money, poor chap! It was very flattering though, the problem though is doing one show, you rehearse, it takes a few shows to get there, so it's ambitious to do it in one night. But these people are braver than me, because I've never done it. jvd737 (May 22, 2008 1:47:52 PM) What's the most embarrassing tune you have on your MP3 player? Janey x Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:47:52 PM) I have no embarrassing tunes on my I-Pod. Everything is all right, you just have to be in the right mood to play it. shawn (May 22, 2008 1:48:46 PM) Question for Tony or Mike: When nothing else is going on and things are calm, do you still write music just for the enjoyment of writing it without any plans to release it? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:48:46 PM) Yeah I do, I always write music and the real pleasure is that part of it but if I’m honest, you do like people hearing it. thiagopr (May 22, 2008 1:49:07 PM) For Tony and Mike....do you guys enjoy football?....which team do you support?...I know Phil's a Spurs fan Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:49:07 PM) I don't mind football, but I'm not a big fan. Too few points for me. I prefer tennis and golf, and as a watcher, I like cricket. That game that Americans love so much! It's a very subtle game to take 5 days to get no result, which rather appeals to me. Madwomanmoon (May 22, 2008 1:49:37 PM) We know what “Carpet Crawlers” means to us, but you said you chose it to close the show because of its meaning to you. Can you elucidate on this please? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:51:36 PM) I just think it's a song from all our lives, then after Peter left, it's included in almost every tour we've done. It has a wonderful emotive feeling, I was keen to end it the second encore being a softer song. I think you can do that on this kind of tour, kind of nostalgic, it could be the last time, etc, and it's nice to end on a softer and more personal kind of feeling, it's kind of anthemic in its way. With a different lyric, it could have been a hit, but I really like the lyric it has. Genesis fans kind of know it, it has that quality, it's not known outside the Genesis world, although we put it out a few times as a single. It captures our simplicity and our original side as well. sean (May 22, 2008 1:49:59 PM) Given the length of time Daryl and Chester played with you on the live circuit, did you never consider bringing them in as full time members of the band at any time? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:49:59 PM) I feel as a live band Genesis are really a 5 piece but in the studio over the years there is something about the three of us English blokes together that is in a musical place that I think has always been quite special and Phil plays drums, great drums and I play guitar, average guitar. penning (May 22, 2008 1:51:39 PM) Since you have spent so much time on the road, and now this last tour...do you travel for your vacations, or just like to spend time with the family at home Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:51:39 PM) Way back when we were away a large part of the year on tour, I used to come home and say to my wife Angie, I don't want to go anywhere but she made me realize that you needed to go away otherwise I used to come home and suddenly the first day you're dealing with problems and things that were left undone, and so yeah, we do travel, and it's different to touring which is nice too. DuchessSuite (May 22, 2008 1:51:55 PM) I’m curious about the song Undertow, what inspired Tony to write the song, was it something from his own experience, something from literature, or “inspiration.” Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:53:13 PM) Like virtually every song I've written, the music comes first... The lyric, I took one or two ideas from Thus Spake Zarathustra, which sounds pretentious, but I've ripped off a few lines in my time. It's just really the consciousness that you have a lot, and that a lot of people don't have a lot. The verses deal a bit more with the have and have not aspect of it. The chorus is about making the most of what you do have really. World of Genesis (May 22, 2008 1:52:30 PM) Mike, have you considered releasing a music video compilation, for DVD or Blu-Ray? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:52:34 PM) Funnily enough that was being discussed last year and I forgot what happened about it because actually there is some quite funny video moments, and some obscure bizarre TV shows as well. dreps1 (May 22, 2008 1:54:20 PM) Hi guys what about a 5.1 live box? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:54:20 PM) I'm sure it'll be talked about and possibly done, we have the two DVDs, and the Mama video will get done at some point,. I'm sure it will be at some point, but does Nick really want to hear those songs again! I'm not sure if I can hear them again! (laughs) Management wants it, we'll do the whole set at some point, I'm sure... ferfelix (May 22, 2008 1:54:26 PM) tony/mike: which is your favourite Beatle? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:54:27 PM) John, Paul, George and Ringo. In fact, last Saturday I was involved in a charity concert locally for the James Wentworth Stanley charity which is actually about the very high rate of suicide in young males 15-22. It's actually higher than car crashes. My wife who is organizing things managed to get the Kenny Jones band with myself, Gary Brucker, and she twisted Ringo's arm to play a few songs and it was great fun. colart (May 22, 2008 1:55:48 PM) Tony, in the videos, you seem very self conscious, do you hate acting in front of the camera? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:55:48 PM) God, I thought I was so good! I am naturally an introvert, I probably should not have been on stage in a rock group. I feel better after putting on a silly hat or wig, but I did not feel natural in front of a camera. Phil being good, and Mike and I being not, added to the fun. Videos are not really about acting though, it's more a bit of fun. If you have a good idea, even people like me can be there. colart (May 22, 2008 1:56:00 PM) Tony and Mike, if you could change anything in your Genesis history, what would it be? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:56:00 PM) I don't think anything really, there is nothing I've done that I've regretted - the various changes within the band with peter leaving, etc. I've always said that although it’s sad when someone moves on because you know you’ll never be as close again, that change forces something else to change and bring something good out of it. hot_to_foxtrot (May 22, 2008 1:57:38 PM) I as a fan for over 30 years get very nostalgic about Genesis and hearing the music and seeing the tours. Do you guys feel the same and get that bug to go out and do it again? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 1:57:38 PM) Nostalgia was certainly one of the motives for doing the tour we did, everyone wants to revisit their past I suppose, the songs are evocative of the period, Ripples takes me right back to the time we wrote it. The tour did prove to be very nostalgic, I hadn't really been with Chester and Daryl for any real period of time for 15 years. It's difficult being in different countries. Being in different countries, it's hard to be close, but nostalgia is one of the reasons for doing it. 8wt1 (May 22, 2008 1:57:50 PM) In the huge audiences like Munich which I attended, not to mention Rome, how much of the atmosphere and response do you sense from up there? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:57:50 PM) Lots. We get a huge energy from a big crowd like the European stadiums we played. I know that you can't see faces as close as you can in a smaller place. Also in Rome, having played there so many times, to actually play a special setting like that in the Circus Maximus will be one of my great memories forever. Seeing the DVD and the screens on “Tonight Tonight Tonight” with a backdrop of Rome behind was very special. onemansfool (May 22, 2008 1:59:48 PM) How have you both maintained such long and happy marriages where so many others in entertainment cannot? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 1:59:48 PM) In my case, I think Angie has always seen the glass as half full rather than half empty so me being away on tour was something she dealt with and she'd bring the kids out for holidays and half term. I remember once she flew out for a weekend to Atlanta and I think the vibe was rather than “Oh God, I have to fly to Atlanta,” it was rather “Great, I get to go to Atlanta!” Also I think that hobbies and interests are very important. We are a horse mad family. With polo and dressage and breeding, and many other sports, it all helps. Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 2:00:16 PM) I'm going to take one more question, then we'll wrap it up. raincloud (May 22, 2008 2:00:18 PM) Tony, which one of your solo parts is your favorite? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:00:18 PM) Not anatomically? *laughs* Assuming you mean solo parts in Genesis, I don't know the answer, let me think... I've always liked Apocalypse in 9/8, once we got the basis going, it was almost a bit jokey, I had never written a proper solo before, it was a charactechure, but once it got going, it worked well, it got REALLY big, it got to a peak in the song, to this chord change. Lots of little bits I like, the bit in “Cinema Show” is a bit of a favorite. If you mean something else, solo albums, “A Curious Feeling” and “Still.” “A Curious Feeling” is the most consistent. It's a little moment in my life, it still works for me when I listen to it. We've talked about the possibility of remixing it, it could be a lot better. wotchaofsykes (May 22, 2008 2:01:06 PM) My God , you played with Ringo! Were you secretly very chuffed? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 2:01:06 PM) Yeah - he was a Beatle! kaj44 (May 22, 2008 2:01:34 PM) Hi Tony & Mike, What is each of your all time favourite non Genesis music track? Kate xx Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 2:01:35 PM) There are so many - probably a Beatle one, but I couldn't choose just one. colart (May 22, 2008 2:02:12 PM) Mike or Tony, have all your wishes come true or do you aspire to something else? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:02:12 PM) All of your wishes never come true. Simple as that, really. I really couldn't have asked for more in terms of our career as Genesis, I've done a lot of stuff I'm proud of. Outside of that, I'd love to be able to rock climbing, but I have no head for heights! Those kind of things... More seriously, I would have liked more solo success outside of Genesis, but it just didn't really happen. I never got off the first rung, not in terms of writing, but professionally. duke80 (May 22, 2008 2:03:59 PM) Tony and Mike, Would you know what had inspired Phil to include the chant towards the end of the 'conversation of 2 stools' as it appeared later in the EU leg of last years shows? Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 2:03:59 PM) No idea what inspired him to do his African chant but every night I walked back on stage after the solo after having our beer break under the stage. I forgot about his chanting and Ii would think “What the hell is that?” laura (May 22, 2008 2:04:12 PM) And your favorite Genesis track? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:04:12 PM) I always say “Duchess,” but if I can't say “Duchess,” what would I say... Hmm... Don't know... It changes very much from moment to moment. I hesitate to choose the big hits, I love “Mama,” but some of the forgotten tracks. What are they? Oh, they're forgotten... From Peter, “Supper’s Ready” was good, especially the final part, it came from a little bit out of the blue. When you're writing and recording, you don't know what's going to be good. “Supper’s Ready” turned out better than I thought it was going to be. I remember playing it to Richard MacPhail, and he was leaping all over the place. Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 2:04:34 PM) What was amazing was how loud his acoustic voice was over two drum kits going flat out. Because he was loud on stage. Mike Rutherford (May 22, 2008 2:05:09 PM) Just to say thank you to everyone for your questions, and lets see what we can do about some board tapes. All the best to you, Mike. cwsharkey (May 22, 2008 2:05:52 PM) What's your favorite Genesis song that didn't make an album? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:05:53 PM) Quite interesting really, I think I always root for the underdog, so many of them I think should have been on. “On the Shoreline” I thought should have been there, it was the second best track on the album, better than “Since I Lost You” or “Never a Time.” There's a track that would have been great on Calling All Stations, called “Anything Now,” we couldn't quite get ray to sing it right. The piano solo in the middle is very unlike anything we've ever done. I would have loved to have it on there, but the vocal wasn't up to scratch. Richard J (May 22, 2008 2:06:37 PM) What gives you the biggest buzz when writing? Is it a great hook - lyric-wise and/or melody? Is it the rhythm and feel of a groove? Is it the chord progression that interleaves with the percussion to form the backbone of the song? Is it the end of a journey that at the start you didn't know you were on? Is it the telling of a story? Or something else entirely? Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:07:15 PM) It comes from the music really. There's a moment when things come together, it comes into focus, we make a horrible noise together, but by pure chance, then things come together, and the shiver comes up the spine. Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:07:22 PM) That gives us the addictive, biggest thrill Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:07:33 PM) That's why we come back to it, not for the adulation. Tony Banks (May 22, 2008 2:07:49 PM) Okay, that's it! We're done! Thanks so much for coming. daver (May 22, 2008 2:09:26 PM) Tony and Mike – Thank you so much for sparing the time to chat with us and for the fantastic music that we all love. Keep on writing we need to hear more music…. And the odd show would be nice as well. Many thanks Dave kittenmommy (May 22, 2008 2:10:00 PM) Are they gone? Because I have to go feed the cats...

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Michael Night on 05.06.2008 - 02:06

Bardzo dobry wywiad, panowie Banks i Rutherford wylamuja sie po trochu z nic-niemowiacych komentarzy, do jakich przywyklismy.
Zaczeli zdawac sobie sprawe po taaakim tournee, ze swiat o nich pamieta..i chce wiecej
Mozna wiec miec nadzieje ze w ciagu 'najblizszych 10 lat 'uslyszymy jakis nowy material :)
Pozdro !

Antoni on 06.06.2008 - 10:21

Bardzo ciekawe, zwłaszcza opowiadanie o pozamuzycznych rzeczach. Mam nadzieję, ze jeszcze będzie okazja do pozadawania Muzykom Genesis pytań, jak teraz. Podzielam nadzieję poprzednika, że Genesis coś jeszcze nagra.
Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich miłośników GENESIS!

BIngola on 07.06.2008 - 22:50

No, tak, to rzeczywiście wielka porcja ciekawych wynurzeń obu panów. Czytając to wszystko mam wrażenie, że coś jednak jeszcze się urodzi pod szyldem Genesis!

mike on 09.08.2008 - 20:53

A możnaby to tak sformatować żeby dało się przeczytać?

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